• @rootA
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    18 months ago

    Your premium is 116 EUR per month, plus the taxes people pay – which are much higher in those countries.

    You have also traded your freedom.

    The UK is currently talking about banning tobacco entirely in the name of reducing health costs despite it being a part of many cultures ceremonies and traditions. New York is still trying to control soda sizes in the name of public health. Canada now offers suicide as an option for people who would have a long (and costly) treatment with low probability of improving health.

    Pretty soon you’re setting a death age because old people use most of the healthcare. They make a Star Trek TNG episode about this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_a_Life_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

    • @maynarkh@feddit.nl
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      18 months ago

      Your premium is 116 EUR per month, plus the taxes people pay – which are much higher in those countries.

      Nope, our system is exactly like the US system, except properly regulated. It’s still private insurance, I pay a private company for medical insurance and make claims when I need to use the system. We just didn’t let the industry grow as a cancer on people.

      You have also traded your freedom.

      What freedom did I trade away?

      About the taxes, yes, I might pay more of them, but at the same time when I got burned out by my workplace, I could leave, get mental healthcare, rest, and get back into work on my own terms. I had no financial problems from doing any part of this whatsoever. What is that if it’s not freedom?

      I lead a happy and easy life. I am not rich by any means, I have a middle class existence, but can pay for nice travel holidays, hobbies, whatever. I don’t know what exactly the US could give me except a constant anxiety from guns being everywhere, school shootings, a semi-fascistic government sliding further and further into tyrannny, and no public services whatsoever.

      The UK is currently talking about banning tobacco entirely

      The US is “talking about” stopping the whole democracy charade and installing a dictator. The fact that it’s being talked about by a few members of the government does not make it inevitable or even likely.

      New York is still trying to control soda sizes in the name of public health.

      I hope so! I mean, I don’t think that anyone should be prevented in going home, making a huge soda and dying of sugar overdose, but it is nobody’s interest to be served one litre soda cups just so that they can feel how “generous” McDonald’s is while they get addicted to sugar.

      Canada now offers suicide as an option for people who would have a long (and costly) treatment with low probability of improving health.

      While the US just bankrupts them and leaves the suicide part to them. Also, are you bringing up an example of a state not providing adequate care to justify abolishing all socialized healthcare altogether?